tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post8464215756267794330..comments2023-07-04T08:25:43.519-07:00Comments on Jeffs Bike Blog: "Riding My Bike..."Jeffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07162251254976949286noreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-13462648393977163992008-07-27T15:24:00.000-07:002008-07-27T15:24:00.000-07:00Hey Jeff, I hope you don't mind that I linked your...Hey Jeff, I hope you don't mind that I linked your blog to an article regarding cyclists on "Dvorak Uncensored".<BR/><BR/>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=19335#commentsROPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03126254648610073191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-65380020423536288112008-07-01T08:25:00.000-07:002008-07-01T08:25:00.000-07:00WOW! I am not saying this is the right thing to do...WOW! I am not saying this is the right thing to do but if that happened to me the snowplow driver would have been in the hospital. Did you go to the city and report him? People think that snowplows have the right of way when in fact they dont. Just because they are bigger does not give them special rights. You need to hunt that driver down and......<BR/><BR/>well maybe not hunt him down but when it happens this winter take care of it for good. Legally or notAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-91200429284815399592008-05-12T05:07:00.000-07:002008-05-12T05:07:00.000-07:00Yes, When I am driving in my car and a snowplow is...Yes, When I am driving in my car and a snowplow is bearing down. I get out of the way. Not to pigeonhole snowplow drivers I would like to comment that most the plow drivers I know are the drug store truck drivin man type who for the most part are not fond of "sissy" bike riders. Based on that alone I see your stund as nothing more than baiting anger out of someone. Pull over next time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-69323314940014698942008-03-11T05:19:00.000-07:002008-03-11T05:19:00.000-07:00"Fighting for what is right is what is right"(inc1..."Fighting for what is right is what is right"(inc123). Could be the worst quote in history. It <BR/>would seem to me that between yourself and this Jeff guy you both prove the old (or new) axiom<BR/>of "you can't fix stupid".<BR/><BR/>Dennis Noward<BR/>Toledo, OhioAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-34386662577718747722008-03-07T21:40:00.000-08:002008-03-07T21:40:00.000-08:00Fighting for what is right is what is right! Only...Fighting for what is right is what is right! <BR/><BR/>Only a few of us would bother or care. It says a great deal about your conscious. Way to go!<BR/><BR/>It's shocking how other cyclists don't stick up for each other, our rights, our safety...inc123https://www.blogger.com/profile/03314452886750343556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-7275231069620215552008-03-07T10:23:00.000-08:002008-03-07T10:23:00.000-08:00"Let,s have an intelligent honest discussion". Giv..."Let,s have an intelligent honest discussion". Give us all a break<BR/>"Bikesafer Jeff". 1st. off you have<BR/>your own website. A little bit of<BR/>vanity maybe?? Maybe a lot. I probably shouldn't be even talking<BR/>to someone as cool as you. Secondly<BR/>your "Bikesafer" at the end is about as stupid a statement as I<BR/>can imagine coming from someone who would ride in that kind of weather. Sadly, I find it just too<BR/>bad that you weren't hit. The biking world would be better off without you, even if you are really<BR/>as cool as you must think you are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-68730581118702026962008-03-02T18:59:00.000-08:002008-03-02T18:59:00.000-08:00Mr. Tom anonymous,How nice for you to be all knowi...Mr. Tom anonymous,<BR/>How nice for you to be all knowing, however you are incorrect in your assessment of my actions. I didn't go out and wait for a plow, I was waiting at a stoplight that had turned red. If you care to trade your anonymity for a constructive discussion, I'll be happy to email you a copy of the whole video so you can see that I had been riding for about 20 minutes on 5 or more different streets when the plow incident occurred. Let me know and then we can have an intelligent discussion, if not and you just want to bash me anonymously, feel free.<BR/><BR/>To the anonymous plow driver, <BR/>I didn't say it was easy to drive a plow, but if it is too hard to do safely, get another job. He, and you if you really are a plow driver, both have a responsibility to be able to actually avoid those people he, as you say, "constantly watches out for" <BR/>How could you possibly know whether I complain when the roads aren't clear. Do we know each other? I would have some idea if I knew who you were.<BR/><BR/>To Karl,<BR/>I was maintaining the same speed as the car so I was not required to move over either. I fail to see the relevance of 18 wheelers in NY having to move over on the Thruway. I'm not in NY and I'm not driving an 18 wheeler. Perhaps you should check the laws that apply where the incident occurred. Send me an email and I'll be happy to send you a link.<BR/><BR/>Come on people. Let's have an honest intelligent discussion with out the name calling and ridiculous assumptions.<BR/>Bikesafer<BR/>JeffJeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07162251254976949286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-91746320735640796372008-03-01T13:59:00.000-08:002008-03-01T13:59:00.000-08:00My name is Karl. I got that out of the way cause I...My name is Karl. I got that out of the way cause I did not want to be accused of hiding. You are a friggen idiot!! You should have moved over for the plow. A car is maintaining a proper speed and not required to move over. I live in NY and on the NYS Thruway even the 18 wheelers are required to move to the shoulder and run the four ways if they cannot maintain proper speed.<BR/><BR/>The next thing you will be whining about is a rise in taxes to pay the plow drivers overtime because they were forced to ride behind your slow moving vehicle for half the night!!<BR/><BR/>Get some common sense. The fact that you have a camera on your bike tells me you were looking for trouble to start with.<BR/><BR/>I just hope you don't end up dead because of your stupidity. You family might actually miss you!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-30517113393616392472008-03-01T12:36:00.000-08:002008-03-01T12:36:00.000-08:00I plow snow in WIsconsin and honestly the plow dri...I plow snow in WIsconsin and honestly the plow driver was being nice. He clearly stayed back for a while hoping you would get off the road so he could go through with out nailing you. You in your stubbornness did not move so he went around you.. <BR/> Don't be mad at the plow driver for your stupidity. If you want to ride a bike in the winter great for you but he is just trying to do his JOB. <BR/> People think it easy just sitting in a truck and driving well sorry to burst your bubble but its not. you are constantly watching out for other people and when you have been plowing for 15+ hours straight it gets to be a little frustrating. <BR/> People like you complain when the roads aren't clear but then you don't help the situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-62517055022903637282008-03-01T09:10:00.000-08:002008-03-01T09:10:00.000-08:00That is BS. You are clearly just starting to move ...That is BS. You are clearly just starting to move when the video starts. I can tell you exactly what you did. 1)You went out looking for trouble 2) You went to a busy street 3) You waited for a plow truck to come into view 4)You started recording 5) You made yourself appear to be a victim to get some publisity when in fact the drive of the plow is the victim here 6) You placed your life and the lives of others in danger. <BR/><BR/>TomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-64872921165453087322008-02-28T05:29:00.000-08:002008-02-28T05:29:00.000-08:00Mr. anonymous, or I should say the "latest Mr. ano...Mr. anonymous, or I should say the "latest Mr. anonymous,<BR/><BR/>I started the recording when I left home. I didn't publish the whole thing so as to save viewers the time of having to look through 2 hours of video to see the incident.<BR/>My video shows the entire plow up until the point where he almost hits me. I was not out looking for trouble I was out riding my bike and trouble found me in the plow driver. <BR/><BR/>Even if biking in the snow is irresponsible, almost killing someone with your mulitple ton truck is illegal and morally reprehensible. I guess we all have to decide which is worse.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07162251254976949286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-85689224006361891422008-02-27T17:25:00.000-08:002008-02-27T17:25:00.000-08:00You can clearly see you stopped to start the recor...You can clearly see you stopped to start the recording when the plow came close. This was done 100% intentionally with no regard to the others on the road. This plow did not sneak up on you with both blades down. Also, notice that the plow is ~17 feet wide. Your convenient video does not show the left most portion of the plow. Where was that in relation to oncoming traffic or the median? IMO you are just out looking for trouble. <BR/>There is a place and time for everything, biking on the street in front of plow during a snow storm is very irresponsible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-25114946404890080902008-02-27T06:45:00.000-08:002008-02-27T06:45:00.000-08:00I am both a cyclist and a plower.Yes you have a le...I am both a cyclist and a plower.<BR/><BR/>Yes you have a legal right... dose that mean you HAVE to exercise it. I know the law says drivers have to keep their windshield clear, and drivers have to pay attention... you are riding in the worst conditions. At night, snowing. What happens if a drunk comes up, or or a car with bad tires and he gets thrown around by slush, drops his coffee, wind shield fogged up or just tired from plowing for 24 Hrs.<BR/>You know you have problems with drivers (the cameras) and yet you insist on exercising your right to ride a bicycle in the worst conditions, on the streets with god knows who is driving. <BR/><BR/>You are right, some day you will be dead right and ruin 2 lives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-82180227768424026922008-02-26T20:43:00.000-08:002008-02-26T20:43:00.000-08:00Bottom line is you are a moron. Please enjoy winte...Bottom line is you are a moron. Please enjoy winter riding as much as you like but try thinking about someone other than yourself and yielding to a snow plow making the roads safer for all. That did not look like a few inches to me in your video. Just another trouble maker with too much time on his hands. Good luck to you. You will need it. I hope you have good life insurance for your family. Almost not even worth commenting but sometimes you just need a to call a spade a spade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-55254559335146468012008-02-22T09:20:00.000-08:002008-02-22T09:20:00.000-08:00Dean,I understand it is your opinion that cyclists...Dean,<BR/>I understand it is your opinion that cyclists shouldn't have the same rights as motorists, but as of right now they do. Until such time as the legislature or the courts take action to change that we all have to live by those laws.<BR/>I don't, as you say, "have it both ways" I follow the law when I ride, and I see far more motorists not stopping for stop lights than cyclists. Regardless of what other cyclists may or may not do, I shouldn't have my safety jeopardized because some other cyclist may not be following the law.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07162251254976949286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-41156137908178383202008-02-22T07:37:00.000-08:002008-02-22T07:37:00.000-08:00It is unsafe for all concerned, cyclist and motori...It is unsafe for all concerned, cyclist and motorist alike for a cyclist to be out after dark in a snowstorm. <BR/><BR/>Now I applaud you for cycling to help the environment, reduce traffic, improve your health, etc, but when it risks my safety, then that's where I draw the line. I have a real problem with cyclist having the same rights as I do as a motorist. <BR/><BR/>Ignoring this incident completely, please explain to me how it is not dangerous for a cyclist to be riding on a two lane road around a blind corner or hill???? A cyclist riding at 10mph is a hazard to traffic that is travelling at 55 mph. Cyclist cry for their "rights" to be followed, but RARELY do I see a cyclist following the laws of the road. Whether it be stopping at stop sign (or light), signaling to turn, etc. You can't have it both ways!! Until the infrastructure can handle both cars and bikes, then I don't feel as though the cyclist should have the same rights. Just my personal opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-25001457242373995332008-02-22T03:12:00.000-08:002008-02-22T03:12:00.000-08:00I'd like to point out that most of the people who ...I'd like to point out that most of the people who bash you choose to use the Anonymous tag, then fail to put their name in the comment. It says a lot about how they think, actually.<BR/><BR/>To the people who said "You were on a bike, you should have pulled over" I'll point out that 99% of people don't pull over in their CARS for a plow. The cars in the video don't either. The plow follows the cars in the video, slowly as they proceed, then accelerates when he passes the cyclist (and way too close).<BR/><BR/>Yes, you can say "If it were me, I'd pull over and let the plow pass, then follow him" (presumably at 200 ft or farther...) but that is not the issue. The issue is a snowplow that did an <I> unsafe and illegal </I> maneuver, which could easily have killed the cyclist. This was then followed by civil authorities (those folks who are paid to protect the public) ignoring or even blaming the cyclist, rather than the snow plow driver.<BR/><BR/>The plow driver drives early hours in crummy weather? He performs a service for other drivers? So what? 400 thousand truckers do that every year. Hundreds of thousands of tow truck operators do even more. Working in lousy weather, or in early hours, or being tired - none of those are excuses for using your vehicle like that. The plow driver was wrong, period. He could have followed behind the cyclist until the cyclist turned, or he could have changed lanes and plowed the other lane as he passed - which is what they HAVE to do when there is a CAR in the lane where the cyclist was! The plow driver got impatient or frustrated, and then did something that almost ended in a tragedy. If it had been a car where the bike was, the plow driver would have simply followed along, or changed to a clear lane - thats the policy for a plow operator in nearly every state.<BR/><BR/>For those of you who posted negative comments about the cyclist, go back and reread your post, except I want you to imagine a different ending. One where in the video, the plow throws enough snow to cause the cyclist to fall and slide under the plow, killing him. Would you still say "yeah, he buzzed you man, but you deserved it"?<BR/><BR/>If it were me, I'd be contacting an attorney (there are many who specialize in cycling accidents) as well as the local news channel. You've given the responsible authorities plenty of opportunities to address the incident 'in-house' and in private. Time for some publicity. Public servants who don't serve the public are like cockroaches, they scramble when you shine a light on them.<BR/><BR/>Matt K.<BR/>Tampa, FLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-49728580076059602852008-02-21T18:10:00.000-08:002008-02-21T18:10:00.000-08:00I drive a street bike so I know what cars, trucks ...I drive a street bike so I know what cars, trucks etc can and will do. If I see or hear something coming up behind me that might cause me injury you can bet I will pull over out of the way legal or not. Being right and being dead don't matter much. You know right well you could hear that plow coming up being you and he seemed to be there for quite awhile so it's not like you didn't have time to pull over out of harm's way. I also am surprised he didn't honk or maybe he did I have no idea. I also drive big equipment so for him to swerve around you might have been dangerous too. I think he gave you time to pull out of the way, he still shouldn't have "buzzed" you but you both need to wake up. I'll keep checking back on your site now and again so I can say what a shame it was that you were hit and killed doing what you love. Ride defensive and safe. says, CantooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-62638408358901144752008-02-16T21:21:00.000-08:002008-02-16T21:21:00.000-08:00I read the your story from bikeforums.net. Sorry t...I read the your story from bikeforums.net. Sorry that there are people who were bashing you over there. I believe you are doing the right thing. Good luck with the fight.Kennethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08212524301480607148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-42506487670187065042008-02-16T20:20:00.000-08:002008-02-16T20:20:00.000-08:00The plow itself looks dangerous and difficult to o...The plow itself looks dangerous and difficult to operate, with that extended blade. My take is that the plow driver must obey the law or be cited. As a professionl driver, he should know and follow the laws more closely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-85708886868983130622008-02-14T13:34:00.001-08:002008-02-14T13:34:00.001-08:00The first part of this is for Dean,Yes, I expect e...The first part of this is for Dean,<BR/><BR/>Yes, I expect everyone to see me because I'm lit up like a Christmas tree. I don't ride as if they have seen me, because I know that even if they do see me they may run me over. <BR/><BR/>I'm not bitter. If you'd taken the time to read the bulk of the post regarding the snowplow driver, I said it was one of the best winter rides I've ever had, depite the snow plow incident. <BR/><BR/>I respect the rules of the road, one of which by the way is not, "snow plows are a lot bigger than you", and I don't get up in drivers faces and get into shouting matches. <BR/><BR/>For many others who have posted: <BR/>It would be very helpful in your effort to make constructive posts if you actually read the material about which you're commenting. <BR/>Bikesafer<BR/>JeffJeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07162251254976949286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-22209310312151317512008-02-14T13:34:00.000-08:002008-02-14T13:34:00.000-08:00The first part of this is for Dean,Yes, I expect e...The first part of this is for Dean,<BR/><BR/>Yes, I expect everyone to see me because I'm lit up like a Christmas tree. I don't ride as if they have seen me, because I know that even if they do see me they may run me over. <BR/><BR/>I'm not bitter. If you'd taken the time to read the bulk of the post regarding the snowplow driver, I said it was one of the best winter rides I've ever had, depite the snow plow incident. <BR/><BR/>I respect the rules of the road, one of which by the way is not, "snow plows are a lot bigger than you", and I don't get up in drivers faces and get into shouting matches. <BR/><BR/>For many others who have posted: <BR/>It would be very helpful in your effort to make constructive posts if you actually read the material about which you're commenting. <BR/>Bikesafer<BR/>JeffJeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07162251254976949286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-63627676853707928082008-02-14T13:20:00.000-08:002008-02-14T13:20:00.000-08:00Jeff,I grew up in WI, lived in MPLS for years with...Jeff,<BR/>I grew up in WI, lived in MPLS for years without any car (ie rode my bike 12 months a yr) and now do most of my riding in the predawn hours. I've seen a lot of crazy weather and a lot of stupid drivers. You have every right to be out on the road at all hours of the day/night and in whatever weather Mother Nature throws at you. And drivers of cars, buses and snow plows should respect that right. But any cyclist, who expects the bus driver or snow plow driver or even the hippie in the Prius to give you a wide berth during a snowstorm in the dark, is living in a fantasy. What the #$%@ are you thinking??? You sound like a bitter guy who has taken it upon himself to be the Bicycle Vigilante. And at what cost? Do you ever feel great after a bike ride or are you always fighting with road rage? Even if you succeed at getting some idiot driver a ticket, there will always be a thousand more where that guy came from. Haven't you figured that out by now?? I've found that cyclists who respect the rules of the road (including the unwritten ones, like snow plows are a lot bigger than you) will get more respect from drivers. Getting up in some driver's face and starting a shouting match is just going to cause the next unsuspecting cyclist that that driver encounters to get the bitch slap that you deserve. And finally, you should strap your video cameras to your ass so when your head gets runover the local sheriff can still watch the video. And if your lucky, maybe you'll get to be a Bicycle Martyr on Utube.Dean S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10566042091285848476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-66327499329443385882008-02-13T11:38:00.000-08:002008-02-13T11:38:00.000-08:00I had a snow plow pass me once, I just moved into ...I had a snow plow pass me once, I just moved into the left lane when I saw him coming and let him continue plowing the right lane. But that is not exactly a lawful riding on my part.<BR/><BR/>I have to say that I am rather shocked by some of the comments; there is absolutely no justification for a plow to pass that closely to a cyclists that close, period! The plow could have stayed behind the cyclists and honked his horn a few times to communicate that the cyclists was in the way and give time for the cyclists to get out of the way safely. The speed difference between the plow and the cyclists was not anywhere near high enough to justify reckless endangerment of life. If it is expected that the cyclists should have delayed his journey by some odd seconds to accommodate safe passing then that same expectation should also be applied to the driver of the plow as well. <BR/><BR/>As I cyclists I expect people to pass me safely or communicate that I am in the way and give me time to safely get out of the way. The whole expectations that cyclists need to be mind readers and should have known that was going to happen is total BS.<BR/><BR/>-=Barry=-Mesa Cyclisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07795298938176927327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6597030563844330141.post-47812173752729178212008-02-13T07:23:00.000-08:002008-02-13T07:23:00.000-08:00I used to ride in the snow all the time up in Conn...I used to ride in the snow all the time up in Connecticut. Maybe I am just chicken or something but I yielded the road to plows on many occasions. From that video is might have cost you 3 second so to pull into one of those plowed driveways/walkways you passed all the way up to when the truck was next to you. Doing so on a commute might have cost me oh 30 seconds but was a gesture of goodwill and "sharing" of the road just like pulling off a narrow two lane when traffic is slowed down and they can't pass.<BR/>Who knows what that plow blade is going to kick up besides snow?<BR/><BR/>Yeah the driver should have given you more room or honked and yelled at you until you did what you should have done in the first place (move out of his lane) if he wanted to stay his line but he was behind you in the video for almost a minute where he was clearly visible. You both should get a ticket.Mark Hastingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03864755772550604533noreply@blogger.com